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« on: November 29, 2012, 07:33:53 pm »

Many know there has been some weird wild things goin on, on our property.  Weird animal *bleep*, weird growls from the dark woods, and weird photos of unknown creatures.  A local game warden has confirmed that spotted on our property recent has been a bear, a coyote with mange (explains the chupacabra photo), a Cougar and a bobcat.  The weird scat that was in the back this summer baffled me and after hearing the warden I googled images of bear *bleep* and ..yep, that was what it was  think   Ya'all know we live in the woods and we have had chipmunks, squirrels, beaver, coyotes, skunks, woodchucks, possums, fox, rabbit, deer, wild turkey, and raccoon either literally living in or under the house or on the property.  But the Bear, Cougar and Bobcat really had me baffled.  There has been bear sightings here forever so that was not huge but the bobcat and COUGAR?  These things moved far from the area long ago.  Like I said we are in the woods but the area (Buffalo and suburbs) has been around for a long time and at one time was the 2nd or 3rd largest city in the country not all that long ago and this drove them critters far a way.  Just shows these animals are getting snuffed out in other areas and are making their way back in desperation.  To our right happens to be a 30 foot ravine into a major creek that is surrounded by untouched wilderness.  This is where the young Fat Dog, Eric, and I used to hike back in the day to just watch Fat Dog do his annual "roll in deer *bleep*" routine".  slaph  Off track but this creek/ravine has to be like a wilderness highway for all these misplaced wild animals.  Whats next?  Wolf?  think  Many of ya'all remeber me hearing that weird unfamiliar growl in the woods next to me in the pitch black.  I now am assuming it was the bobcat or, gulp, the cougar  :deer:  I am glad I Super D'd into the house that night!  outahere         
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« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2012, 08:07:47 pm »

Glad you found out what all roams around when you are snoozing.

I will tell you right now those supposedly coyotes with mange is a crock of sh*t!Jerry & I sat on the 4 lane highway one day back in '07 & watched one of those "mangy" coyotes eating a dead critter. It was definitely not suffering from mange. The sparse hair it had was exactly in the places the Xolo Mexican dogs have hair. The coyote/dog was in very good shape and was not sickly looking.

Anyway, I'd be keeping me self indoors at night if I lived up there. And I have lived most of my life in the country. We, however do not have cougars or bears down here anymore.
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« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2012, 08:16:24 pm »

If its any consolation, the Eastern Wolf has been declared a separate species from the Grey Wolf. It (along with the Red Wolf) are actually more closely related to the coyote. Both the Eastern and Red Wolves have been documented to hybridize with coyotes wheareas Grey Wolves would kill a coyote on sight. All that said, you would make a piss poor realtor my friend....you are not selling this area very well!
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« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2012, 12:15:51 pm »

grey beat me to the wolf comment.... WOULDN"T IT BE EXCITING IF THEY STARTED A CONSERVATION/REINTRODUCTION PROGRAM OF EASTERN GREY WOLVES!!!!  i'll nominate your yard for the release zone ;)
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« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2012, 12:57:25 pm »

Also there have been very few confirmed sightings of cougar east of the Mississippi. THe subspecies native to your area (Felis concolour cougar) The Eastern Cougar has rarely been seen south of Ontario in over 100 years! You have a biological hotspot!
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« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2012, 01:42:38 pm »

I spoke with one of the dog wardens about the "Chupa" we had here...and she said she also showed it to another person who deals with wildlife rehab and they both said it was a yote with mange...I also did bring up Nakia story and the article which intrigued her...and she got pretty excited when I told her I would gladly take pics of any kind of weird "scat" we find laffhrd
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« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2012, 04:27:06 pm »

New York State does have cougars, they usually have a collar on them used for tracking. The DEC will tell you they aren't here but if you shoot one they will try to have you jailed.  A friend went through this 2 years ago when a cougar went after his cows, ya can't be arrested for killing something that New York doesn't have - the DEC did take the collar though.  wink1

We also have Grey wolves up here, they were introduced about 10 years ago, and the collars no longer work. We saw a huge male on some property we used to hunt, it was BEAUTIFUL! We tried to take pics but because of lighting and shadows the pics we got didn't come out well. He stayed a fair distance away from us, they usually won't unless starving and you have food.

Mange in coyotes has been bad in a both Pa and NY as it spreads through the pack quickly. It's a nasty disease.

During the winter months a game farm who has 2 grey wolves lets them play in the deer enclosure after the deer are moved inside. People stand in the parking lot to watch. We stopped once when they were young and we got to pet them and toss toys for them, it was awesome!
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« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2012, 02:27:10 pm »

We have cougar here in Va. The game wardens won't confirm it, but I know a cougar when I see one. I was farm sitting for a friend a year or two ago, and was stalked by one on 3 different occasions, at night, while I was out on their farm walking the dogs. The horses were all worked up, and there was a full moon. Talk about scary..I shined the flashlight over where I heard a weird noise, and there he was, half crouching in the driveway. Just watching. *shudder*

I also saw one recently just up the road from the house. I was driving home and a huge black cat-panther sized- walked across the road in my headlights and continued walking down the side of the road.

Yet...according to the game wardens...they aren't around here.
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« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2013, 09:12:36 pm »

Now I am REALLY paranoid!  Esp with the Pups coming soon.  Time to be on high Marine alert!  :bruce:  http://news.yahoo.com/bobcat-attacks-massachusetts-man-garage-181858989.html
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« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2013, 11:05:50 pm »

A week or two ago I saw a short clip on the news about a woman standing her ground on her patio telling a black bear to get off her porch. :pit:

She kept telling it to go, get out of there & it DID! oh dmblaf

I kept thinking Mar?  confused Is that you chasing D's scat crapper away? laffhrd :deer:
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« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2013, 09:55:15 am »

HOLY SH&%!

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you keep saying cougar , but I would be worried just as much about the bear!!

....and a freaking WOLF?!?!?! maybe it is time to have some kind of fenced in area for the pups?? just in case?   

I would not go out after dark unless I had a gun with me,

WOW I had no idea you all were out THAT far into the woods!! WOWZAH!   

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« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2013, 10:12:12 am »

The cougar and bobcat worry me the most.  Of course the coyotes and huge grey horned owls we have here too and possibly hawks are a concern.  It sucks we wont be able to leave them out back alone, even when older but it is what it is.  Too many wild critters here and even the coons can get aggressive at times.
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« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2013, 10:32:47 am »

You don't have to be out far in the woods!

We live right in town with a tiny patch of woods behind the house. We had a cougar living in our garage! We have deer, skunks, coons, woodchuck, hawks....etc etc...all in our yard, right here in the city limits. We have bear but have yet to see one in town, phew.

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« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2013, 09:27:37 am »

holy bleep!   I was talking to hubby about this last night and he said he would be more worried about the wildcats too.  they are carnivores  and more likely to attack if hungry.  he's got a point.   bugeye
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« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2013, 09:39:07 pm »

I hate cats.  But there is something about a big cat that draws fear.  Stealth, quickness, and strength  flag
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