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« on: August 26, 2010, 10:21:21 pm »

Things are happening on this forum, and its time to reflect!
You can't enjoy both sides of the fence while companion animals continue to pay the price.
Human's comfort human's...Animals comfort animals...its really not that hard to figure out!
We cage them, we leash them, we chain them to a tree...or worse yet...we allow them to roam the streets and be what?????
FREE...
What does FREE mean to you?
Maybe being able to travel...maybe being able to voice yer opinion without being persecuted...what does freedom mean to you?
Whats does BP stand for?
Birds well being...??????
Caged?
How many members oppose birds being allowed to be FREE?
Is this really what this forum is all about?
I have been given the HONOR of a title..."Teacher".
Have I not always spoke of allowing them to be free?
Maybe I have been tolerated because I don't BASH people...I merely speak of the truth!
JUSTIFICATION...
Millions are killed each year here in the USA...why?....because nobody wants them...perfectly healthy little companion animals!
Exotic bird rescues are born and fail...trying to help the little ones...where do all these exotic parrots come from?
I have heard every JUSTIFICATION there is...
How About YOU?
They tell me....Man and Woman are the most intelligent creature to roam the earth....but yet this species refuses to THINK..."out of the box"......
"I have done all I can to keep my bird happy...TOYS...Chew Toys...but yet my bird is pulling his/her feathers out....Hmmmmmmm.....maybe they want to be FREE!
"I ask you again??????..."what does FREE mean to you?"......
Maybe the ability to CHOOSE yer own MATE?
Maybe the ability to TRAVEL...from tree to tree?
Maybe the ability to voice YER opinion....like the birds in the trees that sing for us......."when we humans have the time to actually listen?"......to there song?
Is this forum about really helping BIRDS?
Or help those that keep birds caged?
Find a mirror people...if yer pointing the finger at someone...or something...."Find a mirror"....and let those without sin.......cast the first STONE!
There isn't a bird forum alive and well...that STANDS...for anything!
But we all try and do....."what we feel is right".
If you feel someone on this forum isn't playing fair.....then find a mirror...
Have a talk with the person starring back at ya!
HUMANS COMFORT HUMANS.
ANIMALS COMFORT ANIMALS.
Figure it out!
Peace!
Arty J Tovar
BrokenWing Wildlife & Exotic & Pigeon Rescue & Rehab

Helping all animals fer over 19 years!

You humans.....can help yer selves....
MAYBE!
   
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« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2010, 11:24:10 pm »

#1 you know I love ya BW.  We have spoken many words together and as former Marines I have always been there and listened to you.  I have given you the respect as a man and for what you stand for.  But what things are happening on this forum?  Has anything really changed?  Really?  Cause I don't see it.  Is it the accidental breeding of parrots from some members including me and someone from a rescue?  It sometimes happens no matter how hard you try.  Are me and my members breeding and selling Parrots right now?  Not from my knowledge.  You have hardly been here in a year only to post topics for your chronicles but have you even once read any of our topics, the happenings etc?  You then come here out of the blue saying things are happening here and what does Buffalo Parrot stand for?  BW I am telling you this from me to you and you know it is the truth as I have told you many times before.  Nothing in me has changed.  Do I think Parrots should be in a cage?  NO!  Do I think they should be pets?  NO!  They are NOT domesticated.  Do I wish it could all stop and they will all live free in the wild?  You bet ya.  Problem is..  These laws you seek would most likely end up resulting in the deaths of all Parrots currently in captivity.  With the new law you seek would they be able to be rescued?  If no one could adopt them how would they get rescued?  They are already putting them to death!  If that were to be rectified I am all in.  But such a law would be just a blanket.  Until all bad entities are stopped nothing will change.  As long as there is demand, there will be Parrots on the markets and in peoples homes.  If we can't stop the illegal drug problem how is our underpaid, understaffed government going to even make a dent in this least priority of a law for them?  Also what really bothers me?  The wild Parrots you rescuers always seem to ignore. This is even a bigger problem and much of the reason you are dealing with what you are now.  This is why I bring this up.  Yeah, the law in the early 90's banned all imported wild parrots to this country.  Did it work?  did it stop this?  NO!  Just like the drug smugglers this is still huge problem and one the government neither has the $$ or time to even make a dent!  Wild Parrots suffer just as much as the captives, and it gets worse by the day.  You get where I am coming from?  I NEVER once stated that I was a rescue nor did I ever say that my forum was pro rescue.  Me my self and many here are anti breeding and pro rescue and helped in many ways with a certain rescue but it seemed it was never good enough for a few people.  My forum is on ALL aspects of Parrots not just rescue.  That is how you learn more and in return can help more.  A one sided closed mind will never accomplish this.  I am deep into conservation and have things going on that no one knows about but my forum is "Foo, Foo" because it is not entirely fanatic rescue.  Rubbish.  Life does not work that way and nobody will listen if that were the case.  To cram your views down a humans throat will get you know where...PERIOD! To say we here do not have our eyes open and do not hear what you always say is not the right words.  As far as Buffalo Parrot?  It's first love is the Parrots no matter what any other says.  BW you are a teacher and do show others what must be seen.  That I have never doubted.  You have your ways as do I.  That is why I gave you your own section here.  I just need to state where I come from and what I am about without feeling guilty that I do not do enough when people really do not know all I do behind the scenes.  Can you hear me?  Peace Leather Head peace     
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« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2010, 01:10:00 am »

Tell me Pappy BP....you study the human mind,,,"Where is the end fer them?"
Is it in the "backyard breeder"?
Is it the laws that govern the most "Intelligent" animal to roam mother Earth?"
Where does this Intellect come from?
Everyone on this forum see's what is happening to "All Animals...companion Animals"....
Or does the facts elude you toooo?
I am sorry...but the facts do not elude you Pappy!
You know what I speak of!
You have an area on the forum that reflects Bird conservation...WHY?
Lets talk about the HUMAN MIND...and SELFISHNESS and CONTROL....and who...who really gave us this control?
It surely wasn't any GOD or Mother nature!
Now...my dear friend...I don't base our friendship on how many HUMAN lives I have taken...MARINES....I have my shames.....But I did what the American people demanded of me....
There's RIGHT....and there's WRONG....
Luv ya leatherneck!
Figure it out!
Peace to you and yer mate!
BrokenWing.

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If yer members aren't old enough to deal with FACTS....then maybe "THEY"...should find a different forum...
I post FACTS!
Scary huh?...like trying to stay alive during war time......
Pappy BP....I luv you!
Peace to you and yer family.....
When Facts and Truth...are IGNORED,,,,,"for RIGHTS AND FREEDOM....whos freedom?????
Time to severe our ties.....
May you and all yer members that see whats happening to the birds and continue to BREED them...Live on and enjoy!
Its all about MONEY!...and..."JUSTIFICATION".


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« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2010, 06:20:29 am »

Tell me Pappy BP....you study the human mind,,,"Where is the end fer them?"
Is it in the "backyard breeder"?  The end for them, or one of them, goes to uneducated people.  Those who do not research and learn on their care.
Is it the laws that govern the most "Intelligent" animal to roam mother Earth?"
Where does this Intellect come from? understanding" (intelligence) is different from being "smart" (capable of adapting to the environment), property of the mind  including related abilities, such as the capacities for abstract thought, understanding, communication, reasoning, learning, learning from past experiences, planning, and problem solving.
Everyone on this forum see's what is happening to "All Animals...companion Animals"....
Or does the facts elude you toooo?
I am sorry...but the facts do not elude you Pappy!
You know what I speak of!  Getting into the parrot world, I did not know about rescues.  Through my research and educating myself I learned they existed and they are very much there, just like with dogs and cats.  Very much an issue.
You have an area on the forum that reflects Bird conservation...WHY?    to protect plants, animals and their habitats, a person who advocates for conservation of plants, animals and their habitats, a land management practice that seeks to conserve, protect and restore, habitat areas for wild plants and animals, multidisciplinary practices, including conservation of species and their habitats
Lets talk about the HUMAN MIND...and SELFISHNESS and CONTROL....and who...who really gave us this control?
It surely wasn't any GOD or Mother nature!   Who gives us control and the ability to be selfish....I say the start of that would be upbringing and surroundings.  Things can change as you grow but I say it would stem as a child.
Now...my dear friend...I don't base our friendship on how many HUMAN lives I have taken...MARINES....I have my shames.....But I did what the American people demanded of me....
There's RIGHT....and there's WRONG....
Luv ya leatherneck!
Figure it out!
Peace to you and yer mate!
BrokenWing.

P.S.
If yer members aren't old enough to deal with FACTS....then maybe "THEY"...should find a different forum...
I post FACTS!  I don't think I disagree with what you post.  I do not like to sugar coat things.  I would rather have the facts than fiction.
Scary huh?...like trying to stay alive during war time......
Pappy BP....I luv you!
Peace to you and yer family.....
When Facts and Truth...are IGNORED,,,,,"for RIGHTS AND FREEDOM....whos freedom?????
Time to severe our ties.....
May you and all yer members that see whats happening to the birds and continue to BREED them...Live on and enjoy!
Its all about MONEY!...and..."JUSTIFICATION".
I do not breed, nor will I ever.  To be a "breeder" is to intentionally breed for that purpose.  My flock is my family and they are my responsibility.  Yes, if I could return them to the wild I would.  Do not refer to me as one.
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