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« on: January 02, 2010, 08:21:35 pm »

since you all know how much i love my gcc's i thought i would start a topic of color mutations (mostly due to selective breeding).  There are 2 really new color mutations that are leading towards what appears to me to be a lutino mutation.

there are two basic types of mutations (and its important to note here that mutations are difference in color and not a mix of species... these are still all types of green cheeks).  there are dominant/recessive traits and sex linked recessive traits.

to start there is the basic wild type green color:  emerald green body, red tail, red on belly, black to grey head with green cheek patches, blue flight feathers.


for the sex linked traits there are two basic ones:  yellow sided and cinnamon.  Sex linked means they are carried on the X chromosome (birds are "backwards" from humans... boys are XX and girls are XY).  So often the color mutations show up in girls before they do in boys b/c a girl only needs to have one mutation to show where as boys need to carry one on each chromosome to display the trait).

Yellow sided (ys) is a mutation where under the wings and along the birds sides there is a splash of yellow color and an intensifying of red along the belly.  (this is often accompanied by dark shafts on each feather that are especially noticable around the neck region).  the head of this bird is still dark as is the beak while the feet are flesh colored.


Cinnamon (cin) is a second sex linked mutation where the bird displays dramatically different colors.  The head is light tan and the beak and feet are both flesh colored.  The base green is also a lighter green and the tail is a lighter red.  The belly reds tend to be more muted as well.


The resulting combination of both YS and Cin is called a Pineapple.  This is where the bird displays both the yellow sides under the wings, the emphasis in red around the belly, but a light colored head as well as flesh colored feet and beak.


There are also hyper mutations with their own names as well such as a hyper mutation of a YS which has even more emphasis on the reds and being named Red Faced Yellow Sided.


and the hyper mutation of red faced pineapple


and the mutation which the pigmentation is diluted to seem almost pastel.  this mutation is different from cinnamons or pineapples however in that the green is almost pastel lime green and the beak and feet are "dark"-er than cins or pineapples.  This mutation also has ruby eyes instead of black.  this has been called the Dilute or American Dilute.


A combination of Dilute, YS, and Cin results in a relatively new mutation called the Suncheek.  This bird is primarily yellow with splashes of red across their breast and face,  an orange/red tail, and lime green feathers across their back. They have ruby eyes and flesh feet and beaks.



Lastly there is also the dominant/recessive blue mutation called a Turquoise.  This is a mutation where yellows and reds seem to be blocked from production resulting in a turquoise coloration across the back and wings with silvery/grey tail, head, belly, and flight feathers.


And as with the other mutations these can be combined with the sex linked mutations to create even more color mutations.  The most prominent of these is the cinnamon turquoise mutation (which in my opinion is quite possibly the prettiest mutation we have right now).  



of course while these birds are quite beautiful the thing to note here is often these birds are bred into a more and more selective pool of genes which tends to result in overall less healthy birds, which is true for most genetic mutations of birds.
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« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2010, 08:33:14 pm »

I adore the suncheeks! I also really like the Yellow sided, very pretty birds  smitten.gif
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« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2010, 09:31:35 pm »

The cinnamon turquoise mutation is very pretty. Never seen the suncheeks before.  smitten.gif
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« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2010, 12:20:25 am »

The Dilute is my fav  smitten.gif Great info Lorek...genectics can be so facinating  :)
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« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2010, 05:12:14 am »

They had a Cin in the pet store we stopped in yesterday.  What a cutie.  Actually I was surprised to see all that they had....a Q, 2 BW Pionus, Macaw and......a Caique!!!!  I was in  smitten.gif, what a sweet thing he was!
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« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2010, 07:58:14 am »

Very interesting....nice pics.
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« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2010, 09:01:39 pm »

sophie... i am absolutely intrigued by genetics.  if all the other lil things that have to do with small tiny things such as genes didnt' exist i would have majored in it... but since i cant' stand to deal with things i can't see (mutations i can LOL) i opted for ecology/zoology instead!  i just LOVE reading about it and putting it together though.  After the talk about Jane the other day, then this... you and wishy have inspired my next research subject to be budgies.  hey dad, how about a forum for mutations? LOL  i could write up a lil thing dingy for lots of birdies!  or i suppose that could go under a species forum, we prob have one of them!
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« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2010, 10:27:33 pm »

lorek you missed one of the new mutations. it is a turquoise yellow side. i actually have a yellow sided and a turquiose yellow side. i will show a picture of the tq/ys. the thing with the tq/ys is some take more of the yellow side genes while some take more of the turquiose gene. my male is the tq/ys. he has spots of yellow on his chest has the classic silver color where as the normal greens have the gold color. he has red tail feathers like the yellow sided. he also has a lot of turquoise on his back feathers. also unlike normals and the others with a red tail,he has a red tail on the top and underneath is the dark grey like a normal turquiose. it is so hard to get the right lighting to show off all of his fancy colors.  i have heard that most of the tq/ys are males. actually i have heard it is 90-95% that you will get a male if you have a tq/ys.
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« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2010, 10:54:29 pm »

that would seem unusual as it would take a turq ys female to give you a turq ys male.  and i didn't miss him he falls under the turq cin pic i posted... where you would have all the same variations of sex linked genes only with a turq gene too.. i used the cin as an example, but i didn't feel like posted a pic of each one.  ill have to look them up specifically.
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« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2010, 01:24:52 am »

I don't like all the little things I can't see either like atoms, ions and molocules and there are so many gene combinations out there and ins and outs to know, biology classes that focus on that drive me nuts!! Like you I like the mutations and it's amazing how so many can come about through one little change in a gene. Also facinating is carrier linked mutations/conditions/diseases. You'd think that just one carrier would be enough to inherit the condition and yet most time there are two carriers needed. To be a carrier and not have actual symptoms or disease it pretty cool to. Speaking of budgies I've often thought of what a pairing of Basil and Baxter would bring about in offspring and now that I have Crossroads I think Basil and Crossroads would throw an interesting mutation as well. There is just this problem of the voice in my head telling me it's not a valid reason to breed and thus I listen to it. I can remember when I bred a pair way back when in the early 90's. They were both what you would consider common green budgies, one a little lighter in green than the other. I was so surprised when the babies turned out to be sky blue! I thought for sure they would be green like their parents. I think a forum for mutations is a great idea! Tiel mutations facinate me as well, esp with having Morghan who is a male and yet has retained pearls through several molts when all info I've come accross claims if pearls stay after the first molt they are female where his mutation is concerned.
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« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2010, 02:58:14 pm »

oh  sorry lorek i thought you may have not known about the tq/ys. let me see if i can get pictures of merlot up on here. he isnt easy to get pictures of let me tell ya.
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« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2010, 05:41:18 pm »

here is my yellow sided female margarita she is 3 going on 4 years old.


ok now the pictures of merlot arent that great i just cant seem to get the lighting right. so forgive me. and merlot is 6 going on 7



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